Mentos; Take 3: The Battle of the Sodas!
Given the high number of comments that the previous two mentos and diet soda postings generated we decided to do a third experiment. On one hand we wanted to create a higher jet, so to achieve that we drilled a 1/4" hole on the bottle cap of the 2-liter bottle. But then the question came: "Coke or Pepsi?"...So we used both. And to add more power to the reaction we skewered 4 mentos with a paper clip and dropped them into each one of the bottles.
The result..... see the video below. Coke had a higher stream it went approximately 25 to 30 feet high. Pepsi came about 5 feet lower.
We challenge all of out blog visitors to up the ante, and create your own Mentos experiment (Don, I know I can count on you bud)......The pictures show the bottlecaps with their perforation and the amount of soda that was displaced after the reaction.
The pepsi bottle displaced a total of 1,150 ml (or cm^3) while the coke bottle displaced a total of 1,100 ml. The orifice in the bottle caps was 5/16" (or 0.793 cm). The time it took for the liquids to be displaced was between 7 and 8 seconds. So the average velocity of the soda at the orifice was 309 cm/s (10 ft/s) for the Pepsi , and 297 cm/s (9.75 ft/s) for the coke! That gives us an approximate thrust value of 0.47 N (3.4 lb.ft/s^2) for the Pepsi and 0.43 N (3.16 lb.ft/s^2)...... this is just an approximation and some variables have not been taken into consideration such as the density of the fluid at the nozzle and the pressure differential of the fluid at the nozzle and the atmosphere...
Send us your ideas for future experiments on a comment to the blog!


9 Comments:
Good lord, the math!! I guess some people really DO use that stuff in real life!
Cool experiments.
Oh my God, I really want to learn how to do this here, please teach me!! of course the coke is the best,jeje,
Nonna
It's one of the burdens of being an engineer, sometimes no mattter how hard you try to get away from it all it "sucks you right back!"...
RR
Corrections:
Googled the density of diet coke and found it to be 0.997 gr/ml. Also timed the time it took for each soda to displace their volume of liquid (6.77 s for Pepsi and 7.47 for coke). And with those values the calculated Thrusts for each one is:
Pepsi: 0.57N (4.19 lb.ft/s^2)
Coke: 0.434N (3.15 lb.ft/s^2)
Unfortunately this is not enought to even lift itself..... so the quest for alternative fuels continues, or a way to increase the thrust generated by the reaction of mentos and diet pepsi.
Perhaps if we can grind the mentos to increase the available surface area for the reaction.... hmmm... and/or a narrower nozzle?
NERD!!!!!
Charlotte
Nope, the mentos don't get all used up (not when you use 4). That means that the amount of mentos is not the limiting factor of the reaction. However, you may still be able to get a more violent reaction by grounding the mentos to a powder. So, if you consider that the factors that have not been taken into consideration (density and dP) add to the calculated thrust, then as it stands the Pepsi bottle generates almost enought Thrust to achieve lift off... (assuming 4.4 + lbs for a 2-liter bottle).
The trick will be to design a way to add the mentos with the bottle upside down so that the nozzle is pointing down and the bottle can lift off.... I'm thinking about it...
Grind the mentos and drill a smaller hole - Hey this is great - you guys take all the risks. You might have trouble adding a powder and having it sink into the coke fast enough to react, so thread MORE mentos onto the paper clip (I suggest a double helical form). Just get those girls some safety glasses, wei! Then try out some code-red Mountain Dew. If you could suspend the bottles in a rotating harness and put a bend in your jet the bottles might spin - Are you working on this full or part time?
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THAT'S what I'm talking about! Good suggestions for the next experiment! I think what we should do is have a summer camp for dads... I think right now we can count on Don & Duncan for sure.
I like the idea of the rotating harness... that would give us a better idea of the thrust that can be generated by the bottles.
As for the double helical form clip, well, now that is just way too nerd...
And no, this is not full time, if it was I would have these puppies going airborne for sure!
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